GoulburnEddie Jones Defects to The Bok Side
July 31st 2007 05:09
Following on from my Jones vs John post, it has been confirmed.
Former Wallabies coach, Eddie Jones will be helping the Springboks in their Rugby World Cup campaign.
...and although the man is free to do what he wants, because he is no longer affiliated with Australian Rugby...the scary thing is...Eddie knows a lot about Gregan and Larkham's tactical play and the secrets of our scrum.
Will Eddie be the one to put the Spring back in the Boks step?
excerpts from Rugby Heaven
Eeeeeeek.
...and who the hell is White kidding???
I mean hello? If Eddie Jones was my friend, I'd be grilling him about everything to do with Stephen Larkham. Everything.
Valid point....one that was brought up by another Orbler and please forgive me, I do no know who you are, although I did comment on your post. If you are reading this, please claim your credit.
Yes, Eddie no longer has corporate ties with Australian Rugby/Wallabies and the man does need to work after all (but he's hardly a pauper) but...this is not about professional capabilities and trade secrets and putting food on tables. This is about National Loyalty. In a Rugby World Cup year.
I believe that Eddie, numbnut he may be, is at heart still and always will be, a passionate Wallabies supporter. The issues he has are with the ARU not with the Wallabies. Surely Eddie knows the difference between the two?
...BUT...there is cause for concern in Camp Wallaby.
Ahhh. It always boils down to Eddie's ability.
...ponder this though.
What if Eddie is on a Top Secret information gathering /infiltrating enemy ranks Mission?
Jones, Eddie Jones. Rugby World Cup 2 0 0 7. Licensed to get Bill back.
And I'm done.
excerpts courtesy of Rugby Heaven
image courtesy of ABC
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*Please accept my apologies in advance for being unable to answer any comments. I'm in a very bad place right now and I'm.............just messing with you!
I'm kidding. I'm just a bit snowed under and soon, literally.
As the majority of my readers are non Orblers (and non commenters...what are you? Hollywood stars??), I'm sure this won't be a problem.
Thank you for reading.
Former Wallabies coach, Eddie Jones will be helping the Springboks in their Rugby World Cup campaign.
...and although the man is free to do what he wants, because he is no longer affiliated with Australian Rugby...the scary thing is...Eddie knows a lot about Gregan and Larkham's tactical play and the secrets of our scrum.
Will Eddie be the one to put the Spring back in the Boks step?
...and Stephen Larkham likes ****...
excerpts from Rugby Heaven
Jones to coach Boks at Cup
Rupert Guinness
Monday, July 30, 2007 Rupert Guinness
Former Wallabies coach Eddie Jones expects to reach an agreement with the South African Rugby Union today that will see him take up a coaching role with the Springboks
...extending his current one-week consultancy tenure to three months to include the World Cup that starts on September 7.
Jones has already accepted a full-time coaching director's role at English club Saracens for four years, but he said his latest association with the Springboks came with their blessing.
...extending his current one-week consultancy tenure to three months to include the World Cup that starts on September 7.
Jones has already accepted a full-time coaching director's role at English club Saracens for four years, but he said his latest association with the Springboks came with their blessing.
It is expected that Jones will take over as Springboks technical director....
"I will be there for the start of the World Cup, but not for all of it."
Springboks coach Jake White, a good friend of Jones, told a South African newspaper that he did not want the former Australian coach for the inside information he could provide on the Wallabies.
"Sure, he can give us insight into his observations on any country and player and no one has more intimate knowledge of [George] Gregan and [Stephen] Larkham's technical game than Eddie, but that's not why I want him involved," White said.
"I will be there for the start of the World Cup, but not for all of it."
Springboks coach Jake White, a good friend of Jones, told a South African newspaper that he did not want the former Australian coach for the inside information he could provide on the Wallabies.
"Sure, he can give us insight into his observations on any country and player and no one has more intimate knowledge of [George] Gregan and [Stephen] Larkham's technical game than Eddie, but that's not why I want him involved," White said.
Eeeeeeek.
...and who the hell is White kidding???
I mean hello? If Eddie Jones was my friend, I'd be grilling him about everything to do with Stephen Larkham. Everything.
"I want Eddie here and in Paris because of the perspective he gives us. This is about what he can do for the Boks and not what he can do in a possible World Cup Test against Australia."
As for Jones, he is unconcerned about the criticism levelled at him by Australian Rugby Union chief executive John O'Neill last week.
"I have basically finished coaching in Australia now. I have moved on. And this will be a coaching experience that will help me to be a better coach at Saracens, which is who I am employed by," Jones said.
As for the World Cup, he believes that the Springboks, Wallabies and All Blacks will all make the World Cup semi-finals. "It will be just a matter of which northern hemisphere side joins them," said Jones, who rates the Springboks highly.
"They are a very good side...
"They are really passionate about their rugby. They are committed, as most national sides are. The thing that stands out, and it is the same in New Zealand, is the rugby culture.
And what if Australia meets South Africa in the quarter-finals? "It would be interesting," said Jones, who then laughed at the prospect of daring to look across at the Wallabies coaching box.
"But it is a long time since I have been involved with the Wallabies. People forget that. The last time was 2005. The war settlement is pretty final, mate."
As for Jones, he is unconcerned about the criticism levelled at him by Australian Rugby Union chief executive John O'Neill last week.
"I have basically finished coaching in Australia now. I have moved on. And this will be a coaching experience that will help me to be a better coach at Saracens, which is who I am employed by," Jones said.
As for the World Cup, he believes that the Springboks, Wallabies and All Blacks will all make the World Cup semi-finals. "It will be just a matter of which northern hemisphere side joins them," said Jones, who rates the Springboks highly.
"They are a very good side...
"They are really passionate about their rugby. They are committed, as most national sides are. The thing that stands out, and it is the same in New Zealand, is the rugby culture.
And what if Australia meets South Africa in the quarter-finals? "It would be interesting," said Jones, who then laughed at the prospect of daring to look across at the Wallabies coaching box.
"But it is a long time since I have been involved with the Wallabies. People forget that. The last time was 2005. The war settlement is pretty final, mate."
Valid point....one that was brought up by another Orbler and please forgive me, I do no know who you are, although I did comment on your post. If you are reading this, please claim your credit.
Yes, Eddie no longer has corporate ties with Australian Rugby/Wallabies and the man does need to work after all (but he's hardly a pauper) but...this is not about professional capabilities and trade secrets and putting food on tables. This is about National Loyalty. In a Rugby World Cup year.
I believe that Eddie, numbnut he may be, is at heart still and always will be, a passionate Wallabies supporter. The issues he has are with the ARU not with the Wallabies. Surely Eddie knows the difference between the two?
...BUT...there is cause for concern in Camp Wallaby.
Australian forwards coaches Michael Foley and Alec Evans yesterday voiced concerns about Jones's joining the Springboks just three months after quitting his Reds post.
As Queensland coach this season, Jones was privy to the work Foley and Evans put into the Reds' pack as part of the national tight-five program. It has given him inside knowledge of Wallabies scrummaging, lineout and mauling techniques.
Foley had issues with the timing of Jones's appointment.
"If it were me I would think it's too close, particularly in a World Cup year," he said. "I just think there were certain things that Eddie was privy to that he may not have been privy to if there was an understanding he may actually end up coaching a major international competitor."
But Evans took a subtle swipe at Jones's ability to pass on his insights. "The question, I suppose, is whether Eddie Jones has the ability to transfer any of that knowledge to the South Africans."
As Queensland coach this season, Jones was privy to the work Foley and Evans put into the Reds' pack as part of the national tight-five program. It has given him inside knowledge of Wallabies scrummaging, lineout and mauling techniques.
Foley had issues with the timing of Jones's appointment.
"If it were me I would think it's too close, particularly in a World Cup year," he said. "I just think there were certain things that Eddie was privy to that he may not have been privy to if there was an understanding he may actually end up coaching a major international competitor."
But Evans took a subtle swipe at Jones's ability to pass on his insights. "The question, I suppose, is whether Eddie Jones has the ability to transfer any of that knowledge to the South Africans."
Ahhh. It always boils down to Eddie's ability.
...ponder this though.
What if Eddie is on a Top Secret information gathering /infiltrating enemy ranks Mission?
Jones, Eddie Jones. Rugby World Cup 2 0 0 7. Licensed to get Bill back.
And I'm done.
excerpts courtesy of Rugby Heaven
image courtesy of ABC
***************************
*Please accept my apologies in advance for being unable to answer any comments. I'm in a very bad place right now and I'm.............just messing with you!
I'm kidding. I'm just a bit snowed under and soon, literally.
As the majority of my readers are non Orblers (and non commenters...what are you? Hollywood stars??), I'm sure this won't be a problem.
Thank you for reading.
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Comment by David
The major problem with sport becoming corporate, and being controlled by media mouguls like Murdoch is disloyalty. The corporate dollar has almost destroyed the foundations of loyalty.
Back in the old days, if you got the sack for not being good enough at a job, you wouldn't get a job at another company on the same salary, let alone a higher one. The competitor's company wouldn't have anything to do with you. If you even approached another company for a job, you'd be labelled a traitor and the people you approached would tell everyone in the local tribal district about what a scumbag you were.
Whereas nowadays? It's all coloured over in jargon, rhetoric and semantics about how sport is global. Fair enough. It is global. That's why the tribal element is missing. It's why Australians go to bed at night worrying more about who killed who in Iraq than the safety of their own children in their house.
It's only blokes like Larkham and Greegan who keep the loyal tribal flag flying. They'll always be there. It's in human nature. As disappointed as I can get about the media globalisation of sport, at the end of the day, it boils down to the cailbre of the blokes on the paddock not the suits in the boardrooms.
Look at the Tour de France. What's with all this drug taking? It's all in the name of the coporate dollar. But now we have Cadel Evans? Sorry, but I'd rather a straight guy on drugs won the yellow jacket than a gay guy won it and the media decided to change its colour to pink.
Love your country but love it wisely is what I was taught. I am not going in to bat for gay cyclists. I rest my head on my pillow at night, not bite it.
David ...
Comment by KylieW
Celebrity Obsession
And we all know that the sort of info that you'd be getting Eddie to spill about Larkham would hardly be relevant to what he does on-field!!!