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Craig HillSpringboks To Unleash Haka Zulu?
July 17th 2007 22:30
Well? What do you think? Will it wash?
...and what do you think of this whole pre game war dance business?
I used to love watching the All Blacks do the haka in the days of Wayne 'Buck' Shelford who is credited with 'refining' the haka...and is quite possibly the bravest Rugby player ever...
It was really scary then. Or maybe I was younger and it just looked scary. Now that I'm older anda wiseass wiser...not so much.
...but...what's the point of war dance? To scare the enemy right?
So reasonably...what do you expect the enemy to do?
Please...do not give me the old "show them respect" cliche...when faced with the war dancing enemy, you feel the respect BUT YOU DO NOT SHOW IT. You do not stand in front of the war dancing enemy and clap politely while they do their best to intimidate you.
You are equals.
You disregard them. Treat them with subtle disdain. You swallow your fear and use it to fuel your strength and clear your mind. You don't show your fear. You gain advantage by making them feel their scare tactics aren't working. You accept their challenge by being an arrogant bastard. Or bitch.
Bring. It. On.
Before the physical warfare begins...it's all in the mind.
You do not owe the enemy anything other than a good and fair (maybe) fight.
So...my respect for the All Blacks haka died, after they complained...whinged...that the Wallabies did not show them their proper due.
I can't quite recall when this was but it was John Eales (then Captain forever legend) who told his team to just ignore them, keep warming up, show no fear, etc. It was in my warrior opinion...the right thing to do.
...which is exactly what Richard Cockerill (former English #2 hooker) said when he was disciplined for 'shaping up' to his All Black counterpart, before the start of an England v All Blacks match in 1997.
Cockerill said:
...and now Jake White wants a piece of it.
from Fox Sports
Okay. 2 things.
Firstly...Jake White needs to check his tobacco.
Secondly...it's not fair!!
The AB's have the haka...
The Boks may have the Zulu war dance....
The Pacific Islanders all have their war dances (Fijian cibi* and Samoa's Siva tau are very scary)...
The Japanese are probably going to go all Samurai on our asses...and what do we have???
Waltzing Matilda.
...a very nice and uplifting for the underdog kind of song and I like the 'Australianisms' in it but seriously...
....but what could we do? What choice do we have? What do Australians do to scare the enemy?
We do what we can and what we are good at.
We laugh in the face of adversity.
Then kick the shit out of them. Metaphorically speaking of course....
*pronounced "th-as in the-imbee
info courtesy of Fox Sports
image courtesy of South Africa Travel
...and what do you think of this whole pre game war dance business?
I used to love watching the All Blacks do the haka in the days of Wayne 'Buck' Shelford who is credited with 'refining' the haka...and is quite possibly the bravest Rugby player ever...
It was really scary then. Or maybe I was younger and it just looked scary. Now that I'm older and
...but...what's the point of war dance? To scare the enemy right?
So reasonably...what do you expect the enemy to do?
Please...do not give me the old "show them respect" cliche...when faced with the war dancing enemy, you feel the respect BUT YOU DO NOT SHOW IT. You do not stand in front of the war dancing enemy and clap politely while they do their best to intimidate you.
You are equals.
You disregard them. Treat them with subtle disdain. You swallow your fear and use it to fuel your strength and clear your mind. You don't show your fear. You gain advantage by making them feel their scare tactics aren't working. You accept their challenge by being an arrogant bastard. Or bitch.
Bring. It. On.
Before the physical warfare begins...it's all in the mind.
You do not owe the enemy anything other than a good and fair (maybe) fight.
So...my respect for the All Blacks haka died, after they complained...whinged...that the Wallabies did not show them their proper due.
I can't quite recall when this was but it was John Eales (then Captain forever legend) who told his team to just ignore them, keep warming up, show no fear, etc. It was in my warrior opinion...the right thing to do.
...which is exactly what Richard Cockerill (former English #2 hooker) said when he was disciplined for 'shaping up' to his All Black counterpart, before the start of an England v All Blacks match in 1997.
Cockerill said:
I believe that I did the right thing that day. They were throwing down a challenge and I showed them I was ready to accept it.
...and now Jake White wants a piece of it.
from Fox Sports
SOUTH Africa's rugby team, smarting from a weekend defeat to New Zealand, look set to unleash its own version of the All Blacks' famous haka based on an old Zulu war dance.
Springboks coach Jake White, set to name his squad for the World Cup this week, said he had asked the rugby authorities about reviving a dance that was last used more than 80 years ago in order to psyche up his players.
"The history books show that the 1926 Springboks performed a Zulu war dance in major matches on their tour," White told The Star newspaper in Auckland.
"New Zealand have come up with a new haka recently and, quite honestly, I would like to use ours as a challenge to them."
White revealed that his team have already performed the ritual in the changing room but believes it could have a greater impact on the pitch.
"We have done this challenge before in our team room in the four years since I have been involved as coach, but it hasn't really taken off as an idea to do it public. Not yet, anyway," said the coach.
"I have heard old All Blacks sit in the grandstand and pick up the whole mood of the team just from the haka the players perform."
The haka, which is based on a Maori warrior challenge to an enemy, has long been part of New Zealand's pre-match routine. Different versions have been used over the years, including one featuring a throat-slitting gesture which has been criticised for being overly aggressive.
Springboks coach Jake White, set to name his squad for the World Cup this week, said he had asked the rugby authorities about reviving a dance that was last used more than 80 years ago in order to psyche up his players.
"The history books show that the 1926 Springboks performed a Zulu war dance in major matches on their tour," White told The Star newspaper in Auckland.
"New Zealand have come up with a new haka recently and, quite honestly, I would like to use ours as a challenge to them."
White revealed that his team have already performed the ritual in the changing room but believes it could have a greater impact on the pitch.
"We have done this challenge before in our team room in the four years since I have been involved as coach, but it hasn't really taken off as an idea to do it public. Not yet, anyway," said the coach.
"I have heard old All Blacks sit in the grandstand and pick up the whole mood of the team just from the haka the players perform."
The haka, which is based on a Maori warrior challenge to an enemy, has long been part of New Zealand's pre-match routine. Different versions have been used over the years, including one featuring a throat-slitting gesture which has been criticised for being overly aggressive.
Okay. 2 things.
Firstly...Jake White needs to check his tobacco.
Secondly...it's not fair!!
The AB's have the haka...
The Boks may have the Zulu war dance....
The Pacific Islanders all have their war dances (Fijian cibi* and Samoa's Siva tau are very scary)...
The Japanese are probably going to go all Samurai on our asses...and what do we have???
Waltzing Matilda.
...a very nice and uplifting for the underdog kind of song and I like the 'Australianisms' in it but seriously...
....but what could we do? What choice do we have? What do Australians do to scare the enemy?
We do what we can and what we are good at.
We laugh in the face of adversity.
Then kick the shit out of them. Metaphorically speaking of course....
*pronounced "th-as in the-imbee
info courtesy of Fox Sports
image courtesy of South Africa Travel
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Comment by David
I think they should carry lounge-suites onto the field, wear tracksuits, and John-Howard face masks, and jump up off the lounge excitedly like the PM does waving IR Reform forms around. Now that's scary.
They could call it the Kirribilli.
And sing along to The Teddy Bears' Picnic.
David ...
Comment by Ash
Flashes of memories
The Boks may have the Zulu war dance....
The Pacific Islanders all have their war dances (Fijian cibi* and Samoa's Siva tau are very scary)...
The Japanese are probably going to go all Samurai on our asses...and what do we have???
Waltzing Matilda.
hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
you funny gal
huggins
ash
Comment by DuskDevi
Rugby World Cup 2007
...hmm...so Tom Cruise copied our PM?
*************
Ash hon...
...hee hee...
Comment by Andrea
V8 Supercar Pitstop
Maybe Waltzing Mat could be ... um ... made a little scarier somehow?!?? I know ... get Rolf Harris to sing it ... that would work.
xxxx
Comment by JoshZ
Funny, as always.
Perhaps for the AB's and other Islander teams they could dress up as Centerlink workers and tell them they are being denied the dole?
JZ
Comment by KylieW
Celebrity Obsession
We laugh in the face of adversity.
Then kick the shit out of them. Metaphorically speaking of course....
Better than some dance routine!
Comment by DuskDevi
Rugby World Cup 2007
'The Fandom of the Bok-era'
'All That Blacks'
'Stephen Larkham Superstar'
'The Boys from Oz'...hmm, no I don't like that...unless they do the Wolverine version.
I suppose the Islanders could do....'South Pacific'.
Comment by DuskDevi
Rugby World Cup 2007
Comment by DuskDevi
Rugby World Cup 2007